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Ep 4-How to Meet Anyone Anywhere

If dating apps are not the cure to our relationship blues, then what is? In a modern world it can seem that there are no other options. Trudy shares strategies to open your eyes to the potential all around you.
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Trudy: Hi everyone and welcome to How To Win The Dating Game. I’m Trudy Gilbert, Australia’s Millionaire Matchmaker, and founder of Elite Introductions, and today’s episode is about how to meet anyone, anywhere, and delete the apps forever.
Andy: Yay, get rid of the apps.
Trudy: Oh my God! We are big supporters of app deletion. Okay so, look, many people feel that they’re trapped in the dating app culture
Andy: We talked about that last episode.
Trudy: Yes we did. For those of you that have just joined us. I am joined by Andy who works in the Elite Team, and is also my partner. Many people feel that they’re trapped in the dating app culture and that they feel that there is no viable alternative. And last episode we did indeed, discuss why the dating app culture is ruining your love life. And we discussed how it’s just not in line with the intention of having a relationship but there’s too much hookup culture, there’s too many lies. Too much deception. No one’s accountable for their behavior. So, if that’s the case, how do you meet eligible single people? What can we do to get off the apps? Well, I’m here to tell you how to meet anyone, anywhere. And that’s what we’re going to get right into right now.
Andy: Let’s do it.
Trudy: Okay. So, look at the moment we’re in a COVID lockdown world, so let’s just pretend that society and life is back to normal that we can mingle freely, and by the time you’re listening to this, we feel pretty confident that that’s where, you know, where we’ll be at and we’ll be at this new COVID normal where we’ll still be able to socialize and mingle.
Andy: Yeah
Trudy: Albeit limited
Andy: Australia is a little bit behind at the moment but I just had a friend send me some pictures of Time Square. Today, it was packed full of people so
Trudy: Wow, that’s reassuring.
Trudy: So I think we’re getting there. We’re getting there if New York, which is probably one of the hardest hit cities, is back on track, then hopefully we’ll. That’s a good sign that’s where we’re heading outside of vaccinations and stuff so let’s pretend that we are not back to normal because I’m not sure if that will ever happen, but at least our new sort of COVID normal when we’re functioning socially with some normality.
Trudy: All right, let’s do that. So we’re going to talk about a few different scenarios here we’ll, we’ll get through the kind of obvious and basic ones, which we call a primary hotspot, pardon upon, because we are still using the COVID term. And this is where this is a place where there are single people seeking for a connection, on some level. Now that’s places like bars or nightclubs, singles events, singles cruises,
Andy: The traditional places that you expect
Trudy: Yeah
Andy: The places that were the hotspots for it, you know before, before they were dating apps
Trudy: That’s right. They go to the classics, but still have a little bit of a hookup culture attached to them, because you’re all there for the same purpose but, you know, is that really the same purpose, some people there for one night stand, others are looking for something more. But, I guess, my best advice for you in those environments is just be clear in the early stages of what you’re looking for if you are looking for something more long term, or, you know, play a different strategy than
Andy: Just don’t say it because you’re not gonna say I’m looking for a serious relationship you know what, just when someone else. You know offers to buy you a drink but you can say something like, once you click and it looks like if their intention is something short term you can say something like, I’m keeping my eye out for something special.
Trudy: Yeah,
Andy: Some sort of euphemism,
Trudy: You can look a lot of women forget and I, and I remind my clients that they’re in the driver’s seat in a relationship, you know, they’re in control. They can say things like, let’s just slow it down a bit, or they can control the pace at which the relationship progresses. So if a guy is super key which is great because you know that’s always reassuring and nice
Andy: Good for the ego
Trudy: Yes, good for the ego, but you can control that pace, and just, yeah, that’s what I would say,
Andy: I think it’s pretty, pretty clear that guys are kind of looking for two different things. So, what what they seek when they’re out looking for, you know when they’re on the prowl per se is different criteria than when they see somebody it’s potential for relationship and
Trudy: So it’s worth bringing home demands
Andy: Yeah I think I think women should keep that in mind I mean like, I’m not I’m not saying are “Don’t you know don’t have sex on the first date”, I don’t want to I don’t want to sound prudish but I think that it might be, might be a pressure to push back against this new hookup culture a little bit, because it’s become so acceptable it’s almost swung back the other way too much. And I think it’s completely okay if that’s if you’re a woman and that’s what you want to do, but I think that if you want to, if you want to shift this dynamic you probably probably need to push back against them a little bit. I think the right man is going to respond well to that.
Trudy: I agree, I agree. I think that you’ve got every right to say no that doesn’t that goes against my values. I’m looking for something that’s more long term, or you know just just played smart.
Andy: Something, Say Something euphemistic like, you know, I’m just, I’m just looking to meet someone, or I’m looking for someone special. I’m happy to, you know, to get to know you, but let’s take it slow or whatever. There’s plenty of ways you can say without being too much of a grand statement.
Andy: Yeah, I agree. The next point that we want to really mention is that there are also what we call secondary warm spots,
Andy: It’s supposed to be a hotspot.
Trudy: Exactly. So, this is where you might find people socializing and connecting with a variety of status and attention and intentions.
Andrew. Right.
Trudy: It’s a place where you might meet someone directly, or you may build a network of people to connect with.
Andy: So they’re not there to pick up, so but the
Trudy: nones,
Andy: but it’s a social spec
Trudy: Correct! something like a sports club like a tennis club or a golf club, or, you know, any kind of sporting club really sailing, you know, running, I mean there’s all sorts of activities that you can do, where you will be with like minded people who have the same values, who have similar interests, and, you know, that’s always been a classic source of finding a like minded partner,
Andy: Should you consider the demographics of the sport as well?
Trudy: Oh 100% I mean if you’re, you know 40 and you
Andy: New corporate
Trudy: New corporate then you should go join a golf club. You know if you’re 25 and you’re super active then, you know, join a rock climbing group, you know, do something that fits you know where you’re at and think about the type of people that you want to meet. It’s it’s a really, like it’s a one on one tip right but it’s it’s tried and tested, everybody knows that by doing something that you love, you’ll be meeting other people that have similar interests and values that you’ll be more receptive to receiving an approach from someone because you’re happy and you’re in a space that you enjoy,
Andy: And it’s easier to because the approach can be about what you’re sharing together, it doesn’t have to be “hey you know, you want to go out for a drink” or
Trudy: Yeah! it doesn’t have to be sleazy ugly
Andy: You’ve got plenty of time to just, you know, grow with somebody and connect with them and see if you’re really interested and then you can ask them at the end of the day or something like that when you’ve got loads of time.
Andy: That’s right. The best way for you to start a genuine connection with someone is by having a shared interest, or like even, you know, girls approaching a guy, if they need help in something, you know, a guy can never resist a damsel in distress,
Andy: The dropping of the handkerchief.
Trudy: That’s right, that’s right. Think of the advantages, you know you already have similar interests and values. You can see what they look like, so no misleading photos that are outdated. No one’s fibbing about their age or their height, for example. I know that it’s a bit cheeky but I have heard some stories of people really
Andy: Obviously I have really fun with it.
Trudy: Yeah and like what are you going with that. Do you think that no one’s gonna notice like that’s just ridiculous.
Andy: That’s funny.
Trudy: So yeah, there’s a lot of advantages of meeting someone through a shared interest,
Andy: But also you know when you meet them in the flesh, you realize that attraction comes from so many different things,
Trudy: Ah! Hundred percent.
Andy: Not just how someone looks, how they look in their environment, how they move, how they talk.
Trudy: Yeah, but it’s also how their intellect, their humor, their values, their, you know, their body language. Are they confident? Are they sexy? You know, is there a bit of mystery that’s happening between the two of you.
Andy: Everybody has stories of somebody that they fell for that looks nothing like what they would consider their type,
Trudy: Absolutely
Andy: In those stories, you have those stories. We’re not actually experts at what we’re, what we think we’re attracted to we don’t really know until you know we’re not as much as experts at choosing someone, and finding someone attractive,
Trudy: Oh no! We’re terrible judges, we’re making a decision from a two dimensional image, we have no information about how that person makes us feel, how they look at us, what they say, how they say it. You know there are so many levels that attraction is built on making this
Andy: This is crazy in just a few texts and photographs
Trudy: Absolutely! Absolutely! Absolutely couldn’t agree more. Alright so we’ve looked at two of the very basic common avenues to meet people. I’ve got a list here that I want to share with you that some are quite practical and some are, some you may not have thought of. So, how about we go through those?
Andy: Alright.
Trudy: Alright, first one, friends and family. Well, it’s pretty obvious, isn’t it, let your community know
Andy: You know what, we’re not working on hooking with our friends and family.
Trudy: No, I didn’t say that. I haven’t finished my point yet.
Andy: Oh! Okay. Sorry.
Trudy: You love cutting me off.
Andy: I just was trying to work out what your point was
Trudy: No, we’re not, we’re not promoting incest or, you know, choosing on
Andy: So what are you talking about you’re talking about the old one degree of separation process
Trudy: Yes, I’m saying that you know, let your community know your intentions to find a life partner. You know people love to play matchmaker. I mean, helloOO.
Andy: Do you think they should do that as well with their social groups?
Trudy: Oh 100% You know, put it out there. Ask your friends, “hey do you happen to know anyone you think I might be suitable or compatible with” or, you know, maybe arrange a party or, you know, a dinner party or get together where everybody brings a friend that nobody that, you know isn’t part of your social group so you can extend and try and get to know some new people
Andy: Or really nothing else, declare his status, let people know that you’re single.
Trudy: Yeah, you’d be surprised at how just making that declaration to the universe can actually be quite fruitful and powerful.
Andy: Cool. So, alright so where else can people like meet someone.
Trudy: Alright, look, I think this one is a pretty obvious point but I’m going to mention it anyway. And it’s a dog park.
Andy: Well you know guys love the guys know that the puppy thing works so if you’re talking about.
Trudy: Yeah, it’s like you know the guy having the baby girl had for the women. Well, women, you know,
Andy: I think guys can get a dog.
Trudy: Guys can get a dog or anyone
Andy: The thing is definitely like, I know guys that deliberately have gotten dogs for that exact purpose.
Trudy: Seriously.
Andy: Yes
Trudy: Alright, so get a pet, of any sort. Okay, preferably dogs
Andy: Dods good. You can go to parks and eat and interact with people. Right?
Trudy: Yes, Well yes, it’s a good excuse for a connection to establish, so get a dog or borrow one even better help out a friend, don’t that a friend who’s busy at work and take their dog for a walk
Andy: If you’re like, “I can’t get a dog, you know, I work a 50 hour week job for a dog” just borrow your best night’s dog and go to the park. That’s it. “I’ll take the rover for a walk”.
Trudy: So make sure you know the dog’s name. Okay, because that’s going to be a problem if they run away and you’re not calling the right dog’s name. So, I mean seriously, how easy is it to get into a conversation with someone at the dog park.
Andy: Yes, It’s just a talking point,
Trudy: It’s a very easy talking point and it just flows effortlessly. Now I’m not saying that you shouldn’t start picking everyone up at the dog park. Okay. Not everyone with a dog is single.
Andy: Okay, just about a headspace you’re talking about the headspace being open and placing yourself in spaces where
Trudy: Yeah,
Andy: You can connect with people.
Trudy: Yeah, I’m talking about using an opportunity that puts you in a social environment where you can easily speak to other people create conversation, you know it’s very genuine, and it’s, it’s easy, it’s free flowing, it helps you to foster a connection and connection in life, you know, it doesn’t have to always be about love, it could be about friendship, you might meet someone at the dog park that you find you have a great connection with that you then become friends and then you grow, to learn about their other friends get introduced to this social circle and you might meet someone that way.
Andy: But we went to Dale’s place for the barbecue.
Trudy: Yeah,
Andy: …and his wife had friends over, remember they came to the barbecue
Trudy: That’s right.
Andy: …and there were like four or five people that she knew from the cafe.
Trudy: Yeah,
Andy: They still hang out. Yeah, I haven’t played, she built like a social network, completely apart from all the other parts of their life.
Trudy: Yeah, that’s right. Very easy to do. But the point is that you’re out there connecting you are, you know, meeting with people, you’re engaging, you’re being you’re being open you’re putting yourself out there, and you never know what can happen from that kind of interaction,
Andy: Moving away from a mentality of
Trudy: Head down and staring at your phone
Andy: …away from scarcity too, you know like a God there’s no one out there you know we keep people in space, and then you’re open to it. If you’re thinking about scarcity or that the only way is through apps, then you’re gonna feel trapped.
Trudy: That’s right
Andy: …and then it’s going to be a self fulfilling prophecy as well.
Trudy: That’s right. That’s very good advice. All right, next one. Now this happened to a close friend of mine, and it kind of goes against some age old advice that we were given as children, which is, don’t talk to strangers. And this next tip is the bus stop, the bus stop is a great opportunity for interaction.
Andy: Okay, so he’s catching the bus people going to work as far as
Trudy: Yes, it’s before we’re looking could be in that in that you know that that eight to 10 time slot in the morning, where you know yes, a lot of adults are, you know, waiting at the bus to go into the city now this is obviously a this this story occurred in a pre COVID world. So my friend was standing at the bus stop, had on a new shirt, and, and he was approached by a woman who happened to compliment him on the color of shirt because it was. It was a lovely shade of pink. And so she commented and said, Look, “I really like your shirt” and my friend is quite, quite open to chat and chatterbox he loves having a chat. And before you knew it they had chatted the hallway from one day into the city, so you know it’s a good 30 minute chat. At the end of that chat. She gave him his, she gave him her number. And, you know, it just happened organically she made one little comment, and, you know, the conversation flowed. Yeah, which is really, really cute so my advice is if you see someone that you like, don’t be afraid to say something. Don’t be afraid to give them a compliment or just say hi, you know, the more you do it the more you’ll feel comfortable, and the awkwardness will go away. So, yeah,
Andy: Maybe, it happens to you to be very responsive. Don’t assume that everybody’s a weirdo. Most people are pretty nice,
Trudy: yeah, yeah,
Andy: Passersby are nice people.
Trudy: Yeah, I agree. All right, next one. Now, I like this tip because I think it’s super practical and we could all start doing it now, do more things alone,
Andy: Oh! You mean without your friends.
Trudy: Yeah, like when you’re alone. You’ll find that more people will be more likely to approach you because it’s not intimidating, you know when you with your friends with a group, it’s quite hard to break that in a circle and approach and make an approach.
Andy: I’m trying to think about what you’re saying now. I don’t think I would ever approach. Like if I liked a girl and that she was with three or four friends. I don’t think I would have the courage to say something.
Trudy: Yeah,
Andy: In that scenario like a tournament like the bus stop or something.
Trudy: Yeah, yeah,
Andy: She was by herself.
Trudy: That’s right.
Andy: Definitely that would be easier
Trudy: Yeah, it’s very confronting to approach someone who’s in a group, but if you’re alone, then, you know, it’s a much more conducive environment to encourage an interaction. So my advice is do things like what okay again, pre COVID or post COVID travel alone is really good because it puts you in a position where you actually, you know, need to interact with others, you know, there could be a situation where you’re in a hospital or you’re traveling you know you’re in a restaurant and you need, you need to share something or you need advice or guidance you need help. And so there’s a real need there to interact with people. I have a great story about a client who immigrated from the States. And he came here, fabulous job opportunity, he got a beautiful house in Vail Maine on the border, and really didn’t know anyone. So he went out to dinner, and obviously went by himself, and started chatting with the table next to him, who then told him about all his great places that he had to visit, they started ordering wine and cheese boards and you know, had a lovely evening together, and he’s a really gregarious fun person that you just cannot help but want to engage
Andy: It’s a person I know you are talking about yeah he’s pretty, he’s pretty expressive here is charming.
Trudy: Yeah, and he’s got a great energy and so you know, he told me about this wonderful night that he had, and look that was like a year and a half ago he’s still friends with those people. They still catch up every now and again and, you know, have a drink. And, you know, it’s that wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t gone out, or he if he’d been with a friend you know like, I understand that it might be confronting for some people to sit alone you know in a restaurant or a bar and just be in that space. But it’s surprising how easy it is for you to receive an approach, when you’re in that environment.
Andy: Do you think that there is safety numbers I remember that story that you told me about your friend and meeting that guy that she liked at the casino and stuff like that, like she needed your help in that situation or I think one of my best mates and how I always felt like we had more fun when we went out together because he’s very fought super forward in the initial meeting on more sort of a one on one, close chat kind of person but not good at the icebreaker. He’s like super good at the icebreakers that worked well for us, like having a wingman or is
Trudy: There’s a time and a place for everything, you know, a wing man and woman is always useful, but you don’t always have those opportunities. If you don’t have that, then don’t be afraid to go out alone,
Andy: Right.
Trudy: …and sit in a restaurant or a bar and put yourself in an environment where you’re open for an approach. Don’t rely on the apps, go out there and it does take courage, I get that, you know, it’s not for everyone, but the more you do it the more comfortable you’ll be with doing it and the better you’ll get at it, you know, take a book with you for the first time, if you feel you need something to do, go out to dinner, take a book
Andy: Not your phone.
Trudy: No, no not your phone. Take your book or a notepad, do something that, you know, keeps you busy but also shows that you might be open to being approached
Andy: Yeah, I like that and you’re creating a space that’s changing your headspace about the attachment to the apps as well. When you, when you see those kinds of opportunities, you might feel stronger about letting go of something that you may have habitually been attached to.
Trudy: Yeah, well I think it gives you a broader perspective that this is not the only avenue to meet people through, and that meeting people in person in the flesh is, is a far better way to assess whether you’re going to be compatible or not.
Andy: Yeah. I like it.
Trudy: You know another place you could go to meet people is a bookstore. I know that that sounds a little bit traditional,
Andy: or old school.
Trudy: But, look, I guess I’m just saying just be open.
Andy: Okay.
Trudy: All right, last point is, join a co-working space
Andy: You mean like a hotspot again. Go with like a, like a shared, like a we work or, you know, a shared workspace where there are other people. You might be a business owner yourself or you might work for a company that allows you to work from home, and it’s definitely happening.
Andy: Oh! Definitely happening these days.
Trudy: Oh, my God 100% You know, that would be happy if you joined the co working space, as, as an alternative venue to work from if it wasn’t, if you couldn’t work from home. When you went over to go into the office. In a co working environment you’ll meet a lot of like minded people who probably share very similar routines in, to you who are probably similar in a similar age demographic who would also live in a similar locality to you,
Andy: And sometimes you work those, those workspaces shared workspaces might be closer to your neighborhood,
Trudy: Correct!
Andy: …because you’re asked to right in the middle of the city where your office,
Trudy: Correct, depends where you pick because there are some that are obviously smack in the center of town and others that are in the fringes and in popular suburbs so you’ll meet people that either live a very similar lifestyle to you or have a similar routine. You’ll probably share similar values in terms of being ambitious and driven and you know enjoying your business. So there’s a lot of basic criteria there that you’re sharing common with one another
Andy: And other things like people, micro startups and stuff like that, it’s really interesting stuff.
Trudy: Yeah, yeah it’s great people love talking about other people’s businesses. You know, depending on what stage of business is out it’s you know it’s a lot of fun to talk about that
Andy: We used to use that space in the city, you know, but we used to work out of that was really fun. There’s lots of really cool people there.
Trudy: Yeah it was great, I love that I missed that space. So, so yeah, I think, I think look, the reality is single people are everywhere. They’re at the supermarket, the coffee shop the bus stop, the gym, the sailing club, the dog park, you know, you just have to be open to
Andrew: To shift your mindset
Trudy: …shift your mindset and know that the apps are not everything, and it’s not your only avenue, and that you know, look, if you actually, you know, really do need help.
Andy: And let’s talk about the elephant in the room or the you know, one of the great ways to do it is with a matchmaker. Well,
Trudy: That’s right.
Andy: Hello!
Trudy: Look, you know this is not the purpose of this episode,
Andy: I think we should talk about it, because it is an option. We should, we shouldn’t say, you know, if, if it’s, if you have, if it’s something that you can afford and you’re a busy person and why wouldn’t you outsource it.
Trudy: Well, look, it’s an opportunity that that does, you know, that is available for people who are in the right headspace and who want somebody else to take over this process for them, because there’s a lot of advantages to having a matchmaker enrolled on your behalf. We do all the screening and profiling, we do all the matching, we do all the compatibility checking. And then we bring you on present you with someone who we think is a great fit.
Andy: So again, it’s kind of not too similar to the whole meeting someone through a social space, because you’re very quickly getting to meeting them in the flesh. A lot of the box, be ticked and now you’re meeting them in the flesh so you really get to see what someone’s really like. You know you can’t, you just can’t do that with the apps.
Trudy: No, you can’t, you absolutely can’t. The apps are, again, a flawed system to meet someone through, Because it’s, it’s just a disingenuous mechanism. People aren’t being assessed on the right qualities were resolving the client so look you’ve got so much in common. You know, you’ve both lived in London, you came scares you know you’ve both got kids, you’ve got very similar personality traits, you know what you’re looking for, I think you’re really like each other you both really driven, and you’ve got shared values around family all these things that really matter.
Andy: It’s funny you say, because very often it’s not, it’s not those things that you hang up and you say, I think that person would be really good for whoever it is, And I go, why don’t you go, I don’t know if it’s a feeling I feel. I don’t know what it is. But whenever you say that it’s almost always a great match. It’s not all those things that we think it is, it’s all about our we have to have allied values and like the same things and come from the same background or all those things. Very often it’s just this thing that you get in your head.
Trudy: I know,
Andy:It’s really strange and I got this weird thing.
Trudy: I know it is a bit weird, it’s like I just get this, this, overriding, you know, voice like Andy: Cupid vibe.
Trudy: Cupid vibe where I’ll well I was spoken to a client and he’ll give me he or she will give me the brief, and I’ll just go, “Oh my god, that person is perfect for blah blah”, and I don’t exactly know why I mean, I do try and break it down so that I can kind of replicate the same, the same process again. But it’s just this instinct where my matching brain just goes, “Okay, well, for example, Nick has to meet Jessica, without a doubt. That’s the girl for him, or Jennifer has to meet Andrew”. I just feel that they’re going to find each other attractive, interesting, and there’s going to be fireworks. They’re going to appreciate where they’re at in life. They’ve both got key, you know, there’s all these all these factors that contribute to that rate to that decision, but there is something that’s very instinctive that makes me pick that person above 50, 60, 80 other options.
Andy: Well, having a matchmaker is great if you have the resources to outsource this process because it enables you to get in front of people say, values, the kind of person that’s going to be success with so that’s all good. Let’s talk about the negatives, why wouldn’t you, why would you use a matchmaker.
Trudy: Well I guess you wouldn’t use a matchmaker if you felt that it was beyond your budget. Because, obviously, you know, we are a luxury product, even though some of my clients like to call me an essential service. And I think that’s great. I love that. Thank you Mark for terning that phrase. Yeah, so you know if it’s beyond your budget I do understand that. And look, you have to make sure that if you’re going to use a matchmaker, you have to be clear about what kind of, what kind of client you want to meet. So, you have to be clear about what demographic you’re trying to access and make sure that matchmaker has access to that group,
Andy: And that you’re right to that group as well.
Trudy: That’s right. You know,
Andy: Everybody’s sort of in that same sort of successful professional, executive entrepreneur, they’re educated like they’re in the same group so it’s not like a young gold digger work in that space, she might like the same guys that our clients do but we don’t have anyone for them because
Trudy: NO
Andy: Our clients aren’t looking for trophy wives, they’re looking for partners.
Trudy: That’s right. That’s right and I
Andy: …make sure not only that you have better people than you want but you are, what they
Trudy: But you embody what they’re looking for. Because if I found out that, I got a sense that someone wanted to join the agency that was joining for disingenuous reasons, I wouldn’t allow them to, I would say to them, “no this isn’t the right space for you I’m sorry, you know”,
Andy: It is surprising that people did not realize that you most often say no than you say yes.
Trudy: Yeah, I know I do, I do. Well no, I say no.
Andy: When you think about it, the communication of the whole thing is already very exclusive. So, that was not scare away but that would deter most people that aren’t, you know, 80% of the people that aren’t right for it, but even of that group, you do sort of hang up and you shake your head and say no, there is something not right or
Trudy: I guess you’re right because I only kind of look at the Zoom stage. Whereas, at that point, like the end point like the end of the sales process, you know, is, whereas
Andy: And you have two calls with them
Trudy: Where have already had sales calls, the inquiries, you know, reply to the emails, whatever they are.
Andy: And you are listening on that stage. You are looking for something
Trudy: I am looking for something that’s going to jump out at me and go, you’re a great person, you’re a great fit for the agency.
Andy: I remember that interview you did and you said on their first date. I’ve been everybody’s man or woman. I am their first date.
Trudy: That’s right. And if I’m not their fan, well then, you know, and I’m very receptive audience like I want them to do great, but if they’re not gonna do great and they’re divisive or they’re cold, or they’re guarded, or they’re, you know,
Andy: Entitled
Trudy: Entitled! Oh my God I can’t stand entitled. Then I just don’t think they’re right, they’re the right fit for my beautiful, you know, open minded, adventurous warm engaging, you know, trusting clients.
Andy: So, what’s the message to the people who are considering a matchmaker? It’s obvious we are going to do an episode all about this but like if it’s one of the places outside of apps that you can go to. So, what’s the message that we give them?
Trudy: Well, for me, I would say to you if you’re a business owner or a professional and would like to save time. And, you know, hire a matchmaker to do all the work for you, then, you know, I’m your girl, but you know there are other ways that you can go about meeting people, it will just take more energy and investment from your part to put yourself in those places and to make that magic happen. But you know, you can do it.
Andy: It’s about connecting with people in the flesh.
Trudy: Yeah,
Andy: That’s our message really is.
Trudy: That’s right, Putting yourself in situation—
Andy: Get away from two dimensional photograph, yes swiping culture,
Trudy: Get rid of those apps. Delete the apps please for your own sanity, your own emotional well being. There are other ways for you to meet people rather than putting yourself in harm’s way, people who are going to cause you emotional trauma, you know, you don’t need to do it, you can make the old fashioned way.
Andy: I love it. Well I think that there’s pretty good options there. How to meet anyone anywhere I think that’s good advice
Trudy: Well, thank you Andy, I’m glad that you feel that way.
Andy: All right, so should we wrap up?
Trudy: I think so and stay tuned for our next week’s episode, which we haven’t decided on yet
Andy: Not decided yet, but I think we should tell them to go to That’s Trudy with a y .com. Check out whatever episodes a day. They should catch up. They should do the quiz. I think it’s a really great creative
Trudy: Yeah, the five minute quiz on, ”Are you ready for your dream relationship?”.
Andy: I love that and also check out the online course. It is a great interactive online course that takes you all the way through the process of getting your head and body and soul. Ready for relationship, all the way through to dating and all the skills and relationship stuff so there’s lots of great tools there so check it out.
Trudy: You can also check out our previous episodes, and also send us an email if you have a suggestion or a request or a comment about anything that we’ve talked about, we would love to hear anything that you might want us to discuss in the future. Get in touch, enjoy!
Andy: We are bringing the team. Hearing the other crazy in.
Trudy: Yes, yes, yes, yes! We’re gonna bring Jody and Lisa very soon. You’ll meet the other two matchmakers in the team.
Andy: All right,
Trudy: All right. Well, enjoy. Stay safe and we’ll talk to you soon.
Andy: See you next time.
Trudy: Bye.

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